Often there is confusion over American libertrianism and its lesser-known European variant. Libertarian-socialists like Noam Chomsky will give talks describing how Americans have hijacked libertarianism.
American libertarianism can be summed up succinctly as ‘maximizing individual freedom by minimizing government’. The British version/definition of libertarianism, which is related to libertarian-socialism, is more confusing and archaic, dating to Adam Smith, the intellectual forebear of ‘classical liberalism’, who advocated both free markets and government spending and welfare. European-libertarians seek to use government to maximize collective individual liberty and choice. Requiring a baker to make a same-sex wedding cake is justified if it increases ‘total liberty/freedom’, whereas such a mandate (or any mandate) is antithetical to American-libertarianism. European-libertarianism justifies inconveniencing one person (the baker) if it increases the choices of multiple people who want a same-sex cake.
I would think punishment is worse for civil cases under the hypothetical libertarian form of government, because the damages can be set for an arbitrary high amount, and the debt collections for the losing party renewed in perpetuity. Think frivolous lawsuits, which cost businesses and individuals billions of dollars to fight. While the government offers venues (courts and judges) to mediate these lawsuits, it’s individuals and businesses that initiate them.
The government, on the other hand, has limits (10 years for IRS to pursue back taxes, etc) and can’t just sue for an arbitrary high amount like many private entities can. Everything is itemized. Also the government has pretty generous payment options for the defendant. And the bureaucratic sloth makes such lawsuits take forever, and the collection process even longer.
Being sued by the government is like stepping in a ring against a 300+ pound heavyweight that may occasionally land a hard punch, but is otherwise too encumbered by his girth to do much, and just nods off in the corner most of the fight, only to be occasionally aroused by his cornerman. Being sued by a private entity, on the other hand, is like going against a welterweight that will bloody you before you even lift your gloves. He won’t stop fighting until he loses or the ref calls the fight.
On the other hand, punishment for criminal cases may be worse under the federal government than the libertarian one. For example, the three strikes law, which some argue is too harsh for nonviolent recidivists. Also, issues pertaining to wiretapping and snooping private emails. Maybe the punishment for these criminal cases under the libertarian ‘system’ would be lesser. The government pursues certain criminal matters (chid engagement, homeland security, homicide) quite aggressively, with very long sentences, although the trials can take a long time.
EU-Greece Talks on Bailout Break Down, Setting Up Showdown
When debating libertarianism, critics and skeptics sometimes ask: Why isn’t there a libertarian state? Greece could be the closest thing to a libertarian state. You look at how the leadership as well as the citizens, emboldened by recent events, have defiantly given Germany (and the rest of the EU power structure) the middle finger, choosing to forge their own destiny. Greece is almost like a renegade state, driving the Eurozone establishment to fits for their refusal to corporate like they are supposed to. ‘Bullies’ like Merkel, Draghi and Francois Hollande, who usually get their way, are being bested by Yanis Varoufakis, the wonkisk, super-smart Greece finance minister who is a self-described ‘libertarian Marxist’, a hero not only to Greeks, but libertarians and anarchists all over the world. Technically, N. Korea and Iran play by their own rules, too, but their authoritarian governments are antithetical to libertarianism. Meanwhile, the citizens of Greece are using bitcoin, conversing online and in person, living an idyllic, care-free, salubrious lifestyle – almost like a post-scarcity society, in spite of the media’s efforts to make it seem like things are a disaster over there, or that there will be disaster if they don’t cooperate. So let’s hope Greece continues to drive the EU establishment insane, for the good of libertarianism. If Greece can pull this off and not cave-in, we may be the first witnesses of this great libertarian experiment, similar to those who sailed the Atlantic to join another bold experiment in government, America.
Another possible example of a proto-libertarian state is Venezuela, which has consistently snubbed its creditors, it’s citizens and leaders going their own way as the rest of the world tries to pull them in the opposite direction.
Recently I got into a debate with some about Neo-Reaction vs. Techno-libertarianism
Techno-libertarianism and neo-reaction can compliment each other in that the both oppose democracy and egalitarianism. Techno-libertarianism, as the name suggests, tend to be pro-technology in a context of a free market, and is the ‘position’ that I support. Neo-reaction, which rose to preeminence in 2008 or so around the same time as techno-libtertarianism, tends to be more traditionalist and nationalistic, but still to some extent supports the technology subculture of Silicon Valley, probably because they both believe in IQ and HBD (high-IQ being important to coding and getting rich for the techno-libertarians, and how HBD should influence policy). That’s why I created the category partial libertarians to describe people who are libertarian as far as markets are concerned (similar to the mixed capitalist system we have today), but still support some form of a state (minarchism) and yet oppose egalitarianism, excess or all welfare spending, victimization/SJWs and other welfare-liberal/social democracy ideals. That’s kinda why I created the ‘grey enlightenment’ as a middle ground between far-right NRx, neo-liberalism & neo-conservatism and libertarianism. I’m picking and choosing between both ideologies to create an incrementalist hybrid one that is similar to the system we have today, but with some tweaks and adjustments to make it better. The state is not inherently evil, but should exist to serve the best and brightest and to defend the nation, or in other words, to optimally allocate public resources for a ‘greater good’, in which I give the example of funding innovative, high-IQ companies like Tesla.
Besides ideological differences between traditionalists and technologists/libertarians, another roadblock for NRx is the tendency to get distracted by petty crap that sucks time and energy.
Taking Neo Reaction (NRx) To The Next Level