The Focus Should be on Wall St., Not Job Creation [Edit or Delete]9 comments
Sep 9, 2011 10:55 AM
With the markets tanking this morning, Wall St. showed its disapproval to Obammi's job speech. Over the past three or so years, the only successful piece of legislation passed has been TARP (Troubled Asset Relief Program), everything else has been an abject failure, including the $900 billion stimulus (American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009) and Obamacare.
The Focus Should be on Wall St., Not Job Creation or mainstreet. When Wall St. wins, so does the rest of the economy (eventually) after patiently waiting its turn.
A rising stock market helps the economy by: 1. making consumers more inclined to spend via the wealth effect 2. improving business confidence 3. making it easier for businesses to go public and raise capital
I can't believe how stupid policy makers are to not to take advantage of the historically low treasury yields to provide more stability to the markets. The bond market is begging policy makers to spend with impunity, to throw a safety-line to the banks...to do something now! But then the ECB, Obama, treasury, Bernanke just sitting on their hands, waiting for their queue to 'act' as the market falls day after day.
The US dollar is still the number one reserve currency in the world which allows policy makers to fund pro-growth initiatives without creating core inflation. It's why the economy is doing so great despite record debt and why the debt binge is still sustainable in defiance of all fear mongering by the liberals and libertarians about supposed eminent 'hyperinflation'. Debt is not the issue, it's incompetence.
It's optimal for economic growth to privative gains and socialize losses, to pick winner and losers. Don't like having to bailout the banks? Tough shit, but would you like a great depression or dow 6000? So pick your poison. The public will pay the same amount of taxes, regardless of bailouts or not. Keep in mind that despite the two decade-long wars and TARP, federal income taxes have not increased a singe penny since the 1993 Clinton tax hikes (Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993) while the debt has exploded. The issue isn't whether spending will lead to more taxes (it won't) but what spending programs generate the most return. Why not use tax payer money on things that will help the stock market and economy boom such bailouts, liquidity infusions, toxic asset buyouts, defense spending homeland security, and tax cuts? Stuff like job creation programs, national parks, schools, alternative energy research, and social safety nets DON'T create growth. The reason why the market rallies on new of quantitative easing or bailouts is because those things, while unpopular with the general public, DO work.
If Bernanke would commence QE3 the DJIA would instantly rally 500pts or more.
Obama's Job speech outlaying $400+ billion for job creation , on the other hand, has tanked the market with the DJIA off 230 points and falling. In contrast, the DJIA rallied 30% in the months following Bernanke's Jackson Hole speech in 2010. The DJIA nearly doubled off its march 2009 lows thanks to unprecedented efficacy of TARP.
Obviously, QE provides much more bang for the buck than stimulus.
Contrary to popular myth, QE2 didn't merely prop-up asset prices, but also bolstered underlying fundamentals. PE ratios actually remained stable as stocks surged after QE2 implying that earning had risen. Sure enough, they did as profits and earnings have continued smash expectations for the 11th consecutive quarter. A surging stock market also improves business confidence and consumer spending via the wealth effect.
It's time to promote capitalism and free market, not class warfare and spreading the wealth around. Keep spending, American consumer.. Do your part.
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Good grief, I don't know where to start. How about with this gem, "The bond market is begging policy makers to spend with impunity."
I guess your point is that rates are low so the government should borrow more money. Typical Keynesian claptrap.
Then there's this nonsense, "Contrary to popular myth, QE2 didn't merely prop-up asset prices, but also bolstered underlying fundamentals." If QE2 was so "successful" then why would additional Fed so-called "stimulus" be needed? More Keynesian claptrap.
"A surging stock market also improves business confidence and consumer spending via the wealth effect."
"Keep spending, American consumer.. Do your part."
Oh, I get it. It's possible to spend your way to prosperity. The path to financial success is to spend less and save more, not vice versa.
"It's time to promote capitalism and free market, not class warfare and spreading the wealth around."
So, having the government spend money it doesn't have, and having the Fed buy Treasury securities is promoting capitalism and free markets?
Here's a better plan in the real world:
1. Recognize that the U.S. government and Fed have inflated and spent money that they don't have, and that this is unsustainable.
2. Recognize that we need a major recession/depression to disgorge all of the malinvestments created in the inflationary boom.
3. Balance the budget and end the Fed.
4. Deal with the consequences of unwinding the debt boom now before the problems get any bigger.
"It's optimal for economic growth to privative gains and socialize losses, to pick winner and losers. Don't like having to bailout the banks? Tough shit, but would you like a great depression or dow 6000? So pick your poison."
This is the most outrageous sentence I have read in the last four years. Iceland is the only country in the world doing its job right now throwing bankers and corrupt politiciants in jail. Woes for the USA will not end until it starts its own cleansing.
Banks bailed out and people on the streets. And you defend that. That is not free market, that is the hijacking of the state by Wall Street. Bloody outrageous.
Real interest rates below 0% for years, TARP and stimulus packages, bailouts of AIG, Freddie and Fannie Mae, extended Bush tax cuts, 2 rounds (so far) of QE. Jeez, the economy should be booming and the markets should be in the stratosphere REGARDLESS of politics. But it isn't. It's barely sputtering. Doesn't that make you think just a little?
And speaking of QE or "monetizing the debt"... How the hell do you think its so good that the Federal Reserve should be the primary buyer at U.S. treasury bond auctions, simply because the sane and rational have left a long time ago? Would you seriously lend money to this government and expect to see it back again WITH the same amount of purchasing power?
Geithner and Bernanke have been entirely focused on Wall Street. It has been a near-record rebound from the 2009 lows over the past two years based on unprecedented central bank moves, a complete waiver on investigations by the Federal government, and massive inflows of capital from Treasury.
What has this accomplished? We still have depression-level unemployment with substantial risk of additional job losses over the next year.
Bernanke, Geithner, and Congress need to stop trying to shovel money into Wall Street and look to improve the fundamental employment base in this country, including manufacturing.
Boooo, get this clown off the stage!!! I'm embarrassed for you stock_clown, I mean stock_creep, I mean stock_creeper. You are a very confused young man, and this market volatility has obviously got your head spinning. You are obviously in over your head with this article and have no understanding of anything you wrote about. Your ideas and the terminology that you use are completely contradictory. For example, "It's optimal for economic growth to privative gains and socialize losses, to pick winner and losers." Then you state, "It's time to promote capitalism and free market, not class warfare and spreading the wealth around."
Here's a piece of advice I learned from a wise man: If you don't know something, just say you don't know. Don't BS me.
The 1% plutocrats kleptocrats created more then 46 million new poor, homeless, jobless, hopeless for transforming themselves from billionaires into multi-billionaires: this is class warfare! Did the billionaires work their billions, or stole them to the middle class? Because all wealth is monopolized by the 1%, the 99% can neither invest nor consume! And because the billionaires are in tax heavens, the government can neither invest nor consume!
It's been years since Wall Street actually reflected the economy or contributed in any real way to Main Street Americans. It has become a suckers game with HFTs and math whizzes creating every more obscure and speculative programs gaming the system to reap profits while encouraging traditional investors to "spin the wheel" telling them that The Street is the only way they can make enough to get ahead of inflation. Americans already are realizing that they can't compete and are increasingly distrustful of the crony socialists. This cannot end well.
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The Focus Should be on Wall St., Not Job Creation [Edit or Delete]9 comments
The Focus Should be on Wall St., Not Job Creation or mainstreet. When Wall St. wins, so does the rest of the economy (eventually) after patiently waiting its turn.
A rising stock market helps the economy by:
1. making consumers more inclined to spend via the wealth effect
2. improving business confidence
3. making it easier for businesses to go public and raise capital
Instablogs are blogs which are instantly set up and networked within the Seeking Alpha community. Instablog posts are not selected, edited or screened by Seeking Alpha editors, in contrast to contributors' articles.
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I guess your point is that rates are low so the government should borrow more money. Typical Keynesian claptrap.
Then there's this nonsense, "Contrary to popular myth, QE2 didn't merely prop-up asset prices, but also bolstered underlying fundamentals." If QE2 was so "successful" then why would additional Fed so-called "stimulus" be needed? More Keynesian claptrap.
"A surging stock market also improves business confidence and consumer spending via the wealth effect."
"Keep spending, American consumer.. Do your part."
Oh, I get it. It's possible to spend your way to prosperity. The path to financial success is to spend less and save more, not vice versa.
"It's time to promote capitalism and free market, not class warfare and spreading the wealth around."
So, having the government spend money it doesn't have, and having the Fed buy Treasury securities is promoting capitalism and free markets?
Here's a better plan in the real world:
1. Recognize that the U.S. government and Fed have inflated and spent money that they don't have, and that this is unsustainable.
2. Recognize that we need a major recession/depression to disgorge all of the malinvestments created in the inflationary boom.
3. Balance the budget and end the Fed.
4. Deal with the consequences of unwinding the debt boom now before the problems get any bigger.
This is the most outrageous sentence I have read in the last four years. Iceland is the only country in the world doing its job right now throwing bankers and corrupt politiciants in jail. Woes for the USA will not end until it starts its own cleansing.
Banks bailed out and people on the streets. And you defend that. That is not free market, that is the hijacking of the state by Wall Street. Bloody outrageous.
And speaking of QE or "monetizing the debt"... How the hell do you think its so good that the Federal Reserve should be the primary buyer at U.S. treasury bond auctions, simply because the sane and rational have left a long time ago? Would you seriously lend money to this government and expect to see it back again WITH the same amount of purchasing power?
Geithner and Bernanke have been entirely focused on Wall Street. It has been a near-record rebound from the 2009 lows over the past two years based on unprecedented central bank moves, a complete waiver on investigations by the Federal government, and massive inflows of capital from Treasury.
What has this accomplished? We still have depression-level unemployment with substantial risk of additional job losses over the next year.
Bernanke, Geithner, and Congress need to stop trying to shovel money into Wall Street and look to improve the fundamental employment base in this country, including manufacturing.
Here's a piece of advice I learned from a wise man: If you don't know something, just say you don't know. Don't BS me.
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